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Hypocritical?

Ok. This is a confusing post! Pay attention:

I posted (the post below) here at 6am this morning. After 10 comments, I got an email from the Managing Director of my host (ClaraNet), and I took this post down, and then tried to contact him.

I had a little trouble getting through to him at first, but eventually got to speak to him on the phone just now, and had a very pleasant conversation, by which time the comments had reached number 17, and I’m now putting the post back up again. There weren’t getting as huffy as I thought they were, and I was just getting into a panic by taking my stuff down so soon again. Geddit? (Good, ’cause I don’t!) Anyway . . .


So they pissed me off. I took all my stuff down. I officially got the hump like a child throwing his toys out of the pram and took all my tube stuff down. But now I’ve had people emailing me saying “But you’ve taken all your stuff down! – can’t you at least put some of it back without the logos?”, so now I have done.

I almost couldn’t be bothered to blog about it anymore, until rather marvellously someone pointed this out to me today:

Go and have a look at the following page:

www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/contacts/links/about-tube.asp

It’s on TFL’s own site. Their own fcuking website (a site so badly designed, that it doesn’t even display in Firefox properly) – and what’s on it? Links to other ‘enthusiasts’ sites that talk about the London Underground. So I’m assuming it’s perfectly ok to use this image show here, as they themselves use it on their own website. If they’re not happy with it – what are they going to do, threaten themselves with legal action? Take their own website down?

MetroThey also link to a fair few other sites which use the roundel, and graphics etc … and yet instead of threatening them with taking their sites down, they’re actually promoting them on the TFL website. Perhaps someone from TFL reading this now would care to explain this warped logic?

So it’s obvious that we can all have a roundel like logo that isn’t the actual roundel, but it would be nice to have some guidelines TFL on exactly how close all us ‘enthusiast’ sites can get to it without actually having the real thing itself.

So I’m running a competition: Feel free to send me in your variations and designs of the roundel (email them to me), and if I feel I can get away with it – I’ll publish some of the best ones. As we can all see now that it’s perfectly ok to have a not-quite-complete red circle with a blue bar through it – anything less than that must also be perfectly acceptable.

Oh, and apparantly I’m in Metro this morning, as well as Time Out next week – so make sure you all grab a copy.

57 responses to “Hypocritical?”

  1. Scott says:

    Hey Geoff, is there a problem with the Blog? Seems to keep crashing with a databse error?? Hope TFL havn’t secretly hacked into your code and bought you down from the inside 🙂

  2. Neil says:

    This is what comes of not hosting it in California, like mine 🙂

    As pixeldiva said, go to Dreamhost. One-click WordPress set-up and everything!

  3. Get yourself writing the Ken Livingston . . .

    He’s a crackpot and will love, it write the PM go on take the piss amte

  4. […] Geoff has found a friend in Time Out magazine this week who published the following story about his legal hassles with Transport for London. If you’re not familiar with the story, see here previously. The Register also posted a followup with the desperately spineless Claranet who were incapable of discerning barratry from genuine legal complaint in the simple case of linking to off-site content. John Oates reports that the CEO blames UK law and unbelievably, for the CEO of an internet hosting provider, recommends we host sites outside the UK. Well, we did that already. Geoff gives some updates here and here. The Metro printed a little piece about it, too. Excitingly, it may be that my email to Private Eye didn’t go astray, Geoff says the next issue should have something lambasting the costs of these legal efforts. When’s the next Eye out? […]

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